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Curvex Portrait

Thu, 12 February 2015 19:06

Model name :Portrait
Type :Curvex
Period/date :1952
Gender :Gents

Case Maker :Wadsworth
Case Material :14K SG
Case Serial :L207305
Case Style no :498

Caliber :440
Movement Maker :Gruen
Movement Serial:

Bracelet :

index.php?t=getfile&id=2090&private=0Hi fellow Gruen Enthusiasts!
I need some help identifying my current Gruen.
Here is what I know. It is a 440 Caliber and 498 Model. The serial number reads - L253888. Is this from 1942 or 1952? Also, what does the L stand for? Am I correct in thinking this is a Portrait with Rope Lugs? Please help!


1950's and Up | 16 comments

My complete collection

Sat, 07 February 2015 23:27

I'm not a very good photographer; I don't have the equipment or the patience. But I did decide to try to get at least halfway decent shots of them all today, and I've uploaded everything and shared it with the world. I know that some of the captions are wrong/incomplete so my next step is to go through everything and really scrub them against all the reference materials. 96491625969

If you have any questions about a particular watch, let me know.

EDIT: I decided to show everything, including the watches that aren't running, need a crystal, have battered faces (like the 705-1 with the Wadsworth nickel case), redials, etc. because I know that you all will understand.


Watch Tables | 12 comments

Gruen Guild "Belmont"

Tue, 27 January 2015 14:49

Model name : Belmont
Type : Barrel case
Period/date : 1934-1935
Gender : Mens

Case Maker : Wadsworth
Case Material : 10k GF
Case Serial : 3089509
Case Style no : 3

Caliber : 3157 - 17 jewel
Movement Maker : Gruen Guild
Movement Serial: 212233

Bracelet : Brown leather, 16mm lugs

Other info : Confirmed in 1934 advertisement selling for $37.50. Same style# & movement# as Thoji's Strap 156 posted here and Timeliz' Strap 157 posted here.




1930's | 6 comments

Gruen Belmont

Mon, 26 January 2015 21:46

Model name :Belmont
Type :
Period/date :1934
Gender :Gents

Case Maker :Wadsworth
Case Material :10K GF
Case Serial :3089059
Case Style no :

Caliber :315
Movement Maker :Guild?
Movement Serial:212233

Bracelet :

hi all, A very similar watch generated some discussion over on the VWF forum here at this link. Mine has a 10k GF Wadsworth case which differs from the other thread. I believe this movement is actually a 3157 rather than a 315 since it has 17 jewels?. Not sure that this watch was identified over on VWF though. I probably dont want to state this too loudly but i 'won' this auction on the swamp for .99 cents... and it works & keeps time.


1930's | 3 comments

Pan American Official

Mon, 26 January 2015 16:32

Model name :Official
Type :Pan American
Period/date :1940
Gender :Gents

Case Maker :
Case Material :
Case Serial :
Case Style no :

Caliber :420SS
Movement Maker :Gruen
Movement Serial:

Bracelet :

This watch was in a box with some old coins, Army ribbons and assorted stuff and packed in the bottom of a foot locker my father has had since the end of WWII - I never saw the watch when I was growing up and the foot locker has been in my basement for the last 20 years. I knew there was some old jewelry in there but never paid it much mind. Decided to go through it all and hand it off to my sons and when I turned the stem on the Gruen the second hand started and I found after all those years it works just fine. I've no idea what it is. The case measures 32mm, the back is marked Gruen, 10k gold filled and other than obviously being worn in its day there is no damage anywhere,crystal is intact, unscratched. What is it and could someone recommend a place I can send it, in trust, to get it cleaned and serviced?


1940's | 10 comments

Your "go to" Gruen

What Gruen from your collection is the "default"; Mon, 05 January 2015 00:13

Unclear on the "table" term/concept, but maybe this is a correct usage...
my definition is to show off with a theme and illicit others to follow the trail.

What watch do you use as the default Gruen from your collection. On the way out the door, an event, work, yard work (may be a different Gruen!), appoints to meet someone new, but with the idea that it's not a treasured piece that's locked away and instead this one is used.

Quadron (Quadron 37 in Guild book page 79 - special thank you for the help locating Smile
Caliber/Style 157 8
Serial Number 1105173
14K Green Gold with Reinforced with Metal
Wadsworth 5028322

My day-to-day is a Green Gold Quadron. I believe it's a 1929 Quadron

Can be found in the ID Guildes Volume 2 Page 33 and Volume 1 Page 11

I believe I've found it in the GUILD book some time back, but don't see it now.
It's design is one of he most reserved and simple of the Quadrons. The sides are engraved.

I find myself getting this one near water, washing dishes, etc, without noticing I'm doing it. NO SWIMMING by mistake of course.
Gruen did advertise these as rugged "sport" watches, so what the heck!

Pardon any picture weirdness as I'm still getting used to new camera and didn't use a tripod.


Watch Tables | 38 comments

Wristlet 75

Sun, 28 December 2014 00:27

Model name :Wristlet 75
Type :Wristlet
Period/date :1925
Gender :Ladies

Case Maker :
Case Material :
Case Serial :
Case Style no :

Caliber :115
Movement Maker :
Movement Serial:

Bracelet :

Hello! The image below is of a Gruen that belonged to my wife's grandmother. It was given to my wife over Christmas. I'd love to get some info on what it is. I am on vacation and don't have my tools with me so I can't open it to take pics of movement and case back. Any help is appreciated!

1920's | 11 comments

Curvex Grandee

Sat, 27 December 2014 01:51

Model name :Grandee
Type :Curvex
Period/date :1942
Gender :Gents

Case Maker :Wadsworth
Case Material :10K GF
Case Serial :G236132
Case Style no :417

Caliber :330
Movement Maker :Gruen
Movement Serial:

Bracelet :

I got this watch off Ebay a few days ago. The pictures were of poor quality and little information in the description. I thought it was a 1941 Dunbar when I bid on it.
When I opened the watch I was pleasantly surprised to fine a clean looking 330 cal curvex with a case number 417. I think dial it is a redial. I do not know if it is the correct color? The case is in good condition. There is some brassing in the spring bar area, but not as bad as my photo appears to show. My questions are:

1. Is it a correct nice redial
2. Does this model have a name
3. What kind of a strap did it have? The lug attachment tapers down to 3 mm. Is the taper lug ends after market?


1940's | 16 comments

Nurses Cartouche - 1929

Sat, 27 December 2014 00:39

Model name :Nurses Cartouche
Type :Cartouche
Period/date :1929
Gender :Ladies

Case Maker :Wadsworth
Case Material :14K GF reinforced with extra gold
Case Serial :5260785
Case Style no :

Caliber :835
Movement Maker :Jean Aegler
Movement Serial:

Bracelet :

I picked up a nice Cartouche with an 835ss movement. After tearing it down and cleaning it runs pretty well but needs a new intermediate bridge and stem.

It looks like the watch in the 1929 advertisement. Does this watch have a model name other than what's in the ad?





1920's | 1 comment

ID'd my grandmother's watch - Venus

Fri, 24 October 2014 23:40

Model name : Venus
Type : Bagette
Period/date : 1930's
Gender : Woman's watch

Case Maker : Hallmarked Gruen
Case Material : 14k WGF
Case Serial :2193985
Case Style no :155/130

Caliber : case marked 155 movement present is cal 685 (7 jewels)
Movement Maker : Gruen but noted as Venus 55 in the Green Gruen Guide
Movement Serial: na

Bracelet : Appears to be stainless; might be original.
References: found in Barnett's Gruen The 1930's - A Decade of Watches, page 44

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Recently visited with my parents and my mom brought out a small box of old watches. One of which is a watch that belong to my grandmother.

Golly! There's a Gruen in the family.
Here is the front of the case...
Sorry about the reflection on the crystal.
Here's the inside...

As you can see there is a mismatch between the movement and the stampings in the case. And the shape of the movement.

So, Mike B was at my house this past weekend* and I brought this one out. He'd brought his copy of the master book and we looked it up. It should have a cal 155 inside not the 7 jewel cal 685. Unfortunately I forgot to write down the ID from the book. It is a model 8xx or something. Any want to help out with that?

According to my mom, her mother bought this watch just before meeting my grandfather; she needed a watch for her new job at the time and that is where they met. That dates this to 1932, which jives pretty well with the known data on the caliber. She wore it well into the 1960s when my Grandfather bought her a new watch. This time a Hamilton. My mom has that too; that thing is freakin' tiny.

I hope to get this back to my mom so she can wear it too. Hence I'm on the hunt for a 155.

*no this was not some dream, he was in Colorado visiting family and stopped in. Great visit!

edited to remove big fat mistake.
edit #2 - Added ID info at front of OP

1930's | 12 comments

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