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Cal 450 [message #11275] Sun, 06 October 2019 16:33 Go to next message
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With thojil's post featuring what is likely Thieboud's prototype for the 1-button chronograph that Gruen produced, I thought the cal 450 should be in the database.
http://vintagegruen.org/vgforum/index.php?t=msg&th=1656& amp; amp;start=0&

Incidentally, I think thojil shouldn't be allowed any more of these:
http://vintagegruen.org/vgforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=239 &&srch=450#msg_239

I think though from thojil's watches, that it is plainly obvious that the 450 is developed in house. The prototype actually supports what is written in Pynson and Chaulmontet's Chronographs for Collectors. The 450 is not on Ranfft's site.

So here is the loose 450 that was on the swamp recently:
/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=5275&private=0
/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=5274&private=0
/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=5273&private=0

I also intend to figure out the disassembly of this watch. There is no technical information on the watch that I have been able to find.


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Re: Cal 450 [message #11276 is a reply to message #11275] Sun, 06 October 2019 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice score, Jack!
Keep checking ebay for a dial. I know I saw someone selling one.


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Re: Cal 450 [message #11279 is a reply to message #11276] Sun, 06 October 2019 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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timeliz wrote on Sun, 06 October 2019 16:45
Nice score, Jack!
Keep checking ebay for a dial. I know I saw someone selling one.
I'd prefer a case.


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Re: Cal 450 [message #11281 is a reply to message #11279] Sun, 06 October 2019 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Surprised Of course, that too.

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Re: Cal 450 [message #11285 is a reply to message #11275] Sun, 06 October 2019 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is *some* technical information for 450 in Gruen Catalog 545.



Matthias
Re: Cal 450 [message #11294 is a reply to message #11285] Tue, 08 October 2019 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ephemerald wrote on Sun, 06 October 2019 22:57
There is *some* technical information for 450 in Gruen Catalog 545.
you mean this?
/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=5286&private=0


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Re: Cal 450 [message #11311 is a reply to message #11279] Tue, 08 October 2019 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JackW wrote on Sun, 06 October 2019 12:39
timeliz wrote on Sun, 06 October 2019 16:45
Nice score, Jack!
Keep checking ebay for a dial. I know I saw someone selling one.
I'd prefer a case.
There has been a case that I think has popped up on eBay more than once. I thought about going for it at one point, but figured I'd never see a loose 450. Confused
Re: Cal 450 [message #11325 is a reply to message #11311] Wed, 09 October 2019 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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afire wrote on Tue, 08 October 2019 16:53
figured I'd never see a loose 450. Confused
Me neither.

If you buy the case before I do, I can supply the movement. Then we can take turns wearing the watch.
Very Happy


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Re: Cal 450 [message #11360 is a reply to message #11279] Fri, 11 October 2019 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Jack,

I have a case. We need to talk.

PS. Liz, I have several dials, in different formats.

Cary
Re: Cal 450 [message #11361 is a reply to message #11360] Fri, 11 October 2019 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, Cary.
I only wish I had a 450 so I could relieve you of one of your many dials.
Surprised


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Re: Cal 450 [message #11365 is a reply to message #11294] Sat, 12 October 2019 17:09 Go to previous message
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No, that's not what I meant exactly Jack but close. Mine shows the same movement but w parts & says.
"This model has no detent screw. To remove stem simply push down on detent axis and at the same time pull out stem. To replace stem in movement simply push in stem and detent will fall automatically into stem slot."
I thought, now there is some technical information.


Matthias

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