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Re: from the swamp [message #7334 is a reply to message #5515] Thu, 29 September 2016 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JackW is currently offline  JackW
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Well, in the vein of this thread, here is one that got away....

Ebay # 152249541735

Did anyone here pick it up? I was gunning for it and then didn't get my bid in fast enough at the end.


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Re: from the swamp [message #7335 is a reply to message #7334] Thu, 29 September 2016 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Barney Green is currently offline  Barney Green
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I did bid but not high enough...

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Re: from the swamp [message #7336 is a reply to message #7335] Thu, 29 September 2016 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That was a nice one, didn't see it. I was after this Lecoutre like movement and didn't get to it in time.

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Re: from the swamp [message #7513 is a reply to message #7336] Tue, 29 November 2016 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thojil is currently offline  Thojil
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Was there really a relation between MONTROSE Watch Co. and Gruen as claimed here?
I don't recognise the movement either as a movement that Gruen used.
Re: from the swamp [message #7514 is a reply to message #7513] Tue, 29 November 2016 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Barney Green is currently offline  Barney Green
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I do't think so. Montrose was a registered trademark to Gruen, but about 7 other watch makers registered the name also during the last 100 years.
Gruen registered a number of model names just like Montrose which they used in the 40s.


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Re: from the swamp [message #7515 is a reply to message #7336] Tue, 29 November 2016 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GaryM wrote on Thu, 29 September 2016 02:11
That was a nice one, didn't see it. I was after this Lecoutre like movement and didn't get to it in time.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/865/302/3d5.gif
Seeing that actually made me a little sick to my stomach. Though the dial isn't identical to the one shown in the 1918 book, I'd bet my paycheck that this 18 jewel "Extra Precision" movement with a square dial was once housed in the elusive 18k "square, extra heavy hand-made 18 kt. green gold case." What a bummer. The M89RZG is my number one white whale. Given its $230 price, way, way, way higher than the other men's strap models at the time, I suspect very few were sold, so it's anybody's guess how many, if any at all, survive today. To see one having been destroyed for a couple hundred dollars worth of gold. Ugh. I contacted the seller on the outside chance that it's not too late, but I've never had one of those inquiries go the way I wanted.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Music/Hotlinking/i-hT7JfLL/0/O/18k%20Military%20Movement%201.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Music/Hotlinking/i-qk8nktq/0/O/18k%20Military%20Movement%202.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Gruen-Guild-Book-A-1/i-pvWfw5Q/0/X2/Book1926-39-X2.jpg
Re: from the swamp [message #7516 is a reply to message #7515] Tue, 29 November 2016 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had it in my list but somehow missed bidding on it. Confused
I too believe it's the dial for the Plate 23A.


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Re: from the swamp [message #7522 is a reply to message #7516] Fri, 02 December 2016 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C. Hurt is currently offline  C. Hurt
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That's why I bought it.

Let me know if you want to see better pics or measurements.
Re: from the swamp [message #7523 is a reply to message #7522] Fri, 02 December 2016 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timeliz
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I'm glad one of us got it, Cary!

If another of us find the case for it, does that mean we get shared custody? Very Happy

Yes please...more pics.


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Re: from the swamp [message #7524 is a reply to message #7523] Fri, 02 December 2016 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
afire is currently offline  afire
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Cary, what's your insight into the $230 price of this model? I'm sure the "extra heavy" 18k case has something to do with it, but I presume that it's more about the movement. Are these that much higher grade than the Aeglers, Records, or other makes being used in other men's models?
Re: from the swamp [message #7525 is a reply to message #7524] Sun, 04 December 2016 00:44 Go to previous message
C. Hurt is currently offline  C. Hurt
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Remember that 18 karat gold in 1918 was worth about $15.00 per ounce, so even an "extra heavy" case of say 20 grams would add maybe $10 or $12 to the production cost in gold value. I would think it has to be the movement.

I haven't had the dial off of this one yet, but I believe it may be by Agassiz.
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