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How did this occur? [message #8017] Tue, 25 April 2017 18:24 Go to next message
timeliz
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This was an interesting find upon opening my newest 833 model:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2876/34266476195_83e68328e8_c.jpg

Did this happen intentionaly or unintentionaly at the factory; or was it a repairman's substitution?
The ratchet wheel isn't normally a part that needs replacing. Very interesting.


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[Updated on: Tue, 25 April 2017 18:27]

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Re: How did this occur? [message #8018 is a reply to message #8017] Tue, 25 April 2017 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JackW is currently offline  JackW
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I think you will find your answer when you flip over the winding wheel. Looks like someone has engraved the backside.

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Re: How did this occur? [message #8019 is a reply to message #8018] Tue, 25 April 2017 19:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timeliz
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I did have the thought that this could be the backside.
Now I'll have to go check out a couple other 833's....

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Update: I checked the back of the ratchet wheel of 2 spare 833s and they are blank. Curious.

... just checked a third with serial number closer to the posted movement and its blank also.


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[Updated on: Thu, 27 April 2017 19:21]

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Re: How did this occur? [message #8032 is a reply to message #8017] Sun, 30 April 2017 20:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thojil is currently offline  Thojil
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timeliz wrote on Tue, 25 April 2017 20:24

Did this happen intentionaly or unintentionaly at the factory; or was it a repairman's substitution?
The ratchet wheel isn't normally a part that needs replacing. Very interesting.
Unintentionaly at the factory I would guess highly unlikely as it would have never passed through quality control from my perspective.

More likely a repairman's substitute. This happened(s) frequently with Gruen 877 and the Rolex 300 calibers I heard, where Gruen 877 movements are used for donor parts to restore a Rolex Prince which has a 3-4 times higher value than a Gruen Techni Quadron

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Re: How did this occur? [message #8033 is a reply to message #8032] Sun, 30 April 2017 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JackW is currently offline  JackW
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So was the backside of the one you posted also blank?

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Re: How did this occur? [message #8034 is a reply to message #8033] Sun, 30 April 2017 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timeliz
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It was the backside showing. I just find it hard to believe a jeweler would have put it in upside-down;
but it does have multiple repair marks.


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Re: How did this occur? [message #8035 is a reply to message #8034] Mon, 01 May 2017 00:03 Go to previous message
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Probably as a gift to impress the girlfriend.

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