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Re: Honor Thy Father [message #3877 is a reply to message #3873] Wed, 18 June 2014 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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MikeTheWatchGuy wrote on Tue, 17 June 2014 03:23
Wow, what a gift! That's a once in a lifetime father-son event.

I'm not surprised by the jewelers response. Many retail jewelers simply don't want to work on vintage watches. There's no money in them and the chances of problems are higher than cleaning or repairing a high end watch. So it may not be ignorance on their part but rather a nice-ish way of saying "move along please".

I recall breaking the balance staff in an Elgin wristwatch and being told the same thing many years back. I finally bought a broken movement for them to take the parts from. It was easier than arguing at that moment. After it was all done he basically said he's booked up (they all are) and researching parts takes time and it's time that he's not compensated for which is true.

There are a great number of members of our local AWCI watchmakers guild that won't work on vintage watches and these are guys that enjoy the history of watches. For them it's a business decision of choosing the business of cleaning a higher end watch for $300, which the owner doesn't flinch at paying, versus a repair of a watch not worth that much and is attached to a customer that wouldn't be very understanding of the price and would thus be a ticked off customer right from the git-go.

I would ask you if this is a chain jewelry store and do they have a watchmaker on premises that does the "real" work versus batteries and bands, but in the end I don't think it's of much help other than an attempt to understand the motivation of this particular watchmaker or business.

For future vintage work, I would suggest taking a look at the business directory at the NAWCC and AWCI sites and asking a few that you find about their vintage watch services. I think you are more likely to find businesses listed in directories on those two sites that are going to be of more help to you than you to them : Wink

Congrats again on pulling off something special, right down to the ugly green box, right from the 5th grade ;-) I'm kidding, it's cool and took effort to do.




Actually my Dad and I will be visiting the Jeweler soon. The watch I got my Dad is a autowind that is supposed to self wind by ordinary day to day movement. But my Dad has notified me that the watch I hot him, as his original, is supposed to have a winding crown. It appears that the one I got him will not wind by twisting the crown.

So I told my Dad that I want to go with him when he visits the jeweler to get this thing evaluated. Of course he will be bringing the other two watches in the box along, as that is precisely what they are for......parts. I will still make mention to the jeweler about the Borel site. Perhaps it was something that just never entered the realm of the jeweler. If he responds accordingly then I will consider all well.

And then I might browse some of the Citizen lineup again.

And, believe it or not, that box took well over 5 hours to complete. I had to paint and then let the paint dry. The silver color lines and lettering needed several coats. This as metallic/acrylic takes a build up. I had to tape the lines and then dab and use pins to correct paint that bled through the tape. After that there was the issue of hand painting letters over a wood grain that had some relief to it. After all was painted I then used a gloss sealer spray.

The inside of the box did not come with a center portion. I had to buy a thin sheet of craft wood to make the divider. The box I bought was juuuuuust enough to fit all of the components, after gluing the cloth to the interior, then gluing cloth to the divider, and then gluing it into the box.

The cloth was leftover from a Fathers Day gift box I had made him last year, though. But last years box contained knives that were factory "Laser Edged". And he sung those knives praises all year long,claiming that he never had knifes that held an edge like those ones I got him.

And he has owned many knives throughout the years. Honestly, though, I wasnt planning on making him another box this year...... until the argument in May led to him handing me over the Gruen to research. Initially I though to have it repaired and give it back to him as a gift. But after actually finding some identical examples, one of which was in excellent cosmetic condition, and considering how well last years gift served him, I figured I'd just replace it and make a cool custom box configuration to house the spares and the much better conditioned one as the wearable watch.


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