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Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J [message #13219 is a reply to message #13210]

Mon, 10 August 2020 01:19

Case
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Welcome back, Alex. I was hoping to get your eyes on this one.

My interest in these styles piqued when I saw them still in the 1926 parts book, all now in regular Adjusted sn line, but all with much earlier sn than the rest. Speaks to remnants. Got this in a lucky accident—had no clue until I opened it.

I’m pretty confidant this is a reference for late/end of 1913 production, due to stamps. The model 35 in the 26 book still has words + numbers for jewels/adj. Thats at 456,9xx sn. Here’s 457,1xx with only #s. 1913 tariff, enacted September 30. Helpful, since Gruen soft converted their V4s several years later (in the 470s) Whoever was making these clearly didn’t wait.

I’m still not convinced this is a 35. Different size, different jewel count, AND different orientation? Not buying it.

My two caveats:
1) I'm wrong many times a day --just ask my wife!
2) Always seeking to learn more

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		Possible Caliber 60 (21J sister to Cal 35) - Madretsch - 17’” Open Face By: Case on Sun, 09 August 2020 04:05
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Case on Sun, 09 August 2020 04:29
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Barney Green on Sun, 09 August 2020 10:42
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Jenneke on Sun, 09 August 2020 12:14
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Case on Sun, 09 August 2020 19:05
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: thesnark17 on Mon, 10 August 2020 00:40
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Case on Mon, 10 August 2020 01:19
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: thesnark17 on Mon, 10 August 2020 01:43
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Barney Green on Mon, 10 August 2020 10:08
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Case on Mon, 10 August 2020 13:46
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: thesnark17 on Mon, 10 August 2020 15:00
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Case on Mon, 10 August 2020 16:47
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: thesnark17 on Mon, 10 August 2020 18:49
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Case on Mon, 10 August 2020 19:22
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Case on Tue, 11 August 2020 01:24
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Jenneke on Tue, 11 August 2020 20:38
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Ephemerald on Tue, 11 August 2020 20:47
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: thesnark17 on Wed, 12 August 2020 20:36
		Re: Unknown Madretsch OF Caliber — 10 Size/17L — 21J By: Case on Thu, 13 August 2020 03:03

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