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Strap 250 [message #14607]

Tue, 09 March 2021 22:13

Ephemerald
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Model name: Oxford
Type:Strap
Period/date:1934ish
Gender:male

Case Maker:Gruen
Case Material:Guildite
Case Serial:6049294
Case Style no:154

Caliber:704
Movement Maker:Gruen Lavina
Movement Serial:

Bracelet: Of period,likely original. Note small detail: I like how the u is flipped in Gruen on caseback.

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Re: Strap 250 [message #14610 is a reply to message #14607]

Wed, 10 March 2021 17:01

afire
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Location: Wisconsin

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Ephemerald wrote on Tue, 09 March 2021 16:13

Bracelet: Of period,likely original.

What brand is the bracelet? Add a picture of the clasp and I can see if I can ID it in my Gruen bracelet catalog.

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Re: Strap 250 [message #14612 is a reply to message #14610]

Wed, 10 March 2021 20:13

Ephemerald
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That'd be great, what year was your bracelet catalog published?
It's probably by A & Z. I think. There is definitely no name marked, that's why I had it taken apart, but there is a patent that comes back to a Dalo but assigned to A & Z Chain out of Rhode Island. Began business in 1905, still around in some form. I know I have 5 or 6 other Gruens with A & Z marked chains & I see them all the time on Gruens too, ones that look to be convincingly original.
Thanks.

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Re: Strap 250 [message #14613 is a reply to message #14610]

Wed, 10 March 2021 20:20

Jenneke
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Location: Netherlands

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Sleek art deco watch! And pretty bracelet.

And guildite not something you see often.

Varsity extra wide.... no match found.

You can only waste time if you forget to enjoy it - Loesje

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Re: Strap 250 [message #14622 is a reply to message #14612]

Thu, 11 March 2021 17:46

afire
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Location: Wisconsin

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Ephemerald wrote on Wed, 10 March 2021 14:13

That'd be great, what year was your bracelet catalog published?

All the years. It's actually the bracelet equivalent of the Master Book. There are a ton of bracelets similar to this one, but none by A&Z. Mostly Kreisler, Sturdy, and Speidel. And the pictures are not clear enough to make out details like the four ridges in the connecting pieces for a positive ID. But I agree, it could well be original. Gruen was definitely using this style of bracelet, and that patented clasp may also have been licensed to one of the manufacturers I mentioned.

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