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Ladies Cartouche 384 [message #585]

Sat, 08 June 2013 18:12

mikey
Messages: 709
Registered: May 2013
Location: Paris, Ontario

Gruen Master

Model name : 384
Type : Cartouche
Period/date : 1930ish
Gender : Ladies

Case Maker : Gruen-Cincinatti
Case Material: 14k GF
Case Serial : 2052427
Case Style no: 74

Caliber : 835
Movement Maker: Aegler
Movement Serial: 18292423

Bracelet : Durobrite SS link

Other info : Overhauled in Jan 2013, excellent runner.

Edit: Info updated, thanks Barney!

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Still here....

[Updated on: Thu, 17 July 2014 13:54]

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Re: Another Ladies Cartouche up for ID [message #3980 is a reply to message #585]

Thu, 17 July 2014 07:32

Barney Green
Messages: 1747
Registered: February 2014
Location: Wolfsburg, Germany

Gruen Authority

Mike,

from the 1929 Guild Book (page 145) and the 1931 Supplement (pag 22A) I would ID your watch as the original Cartouche 384.

There are two ads which I found from old newspapers in June 1929 and December 1931 which to my opionion show your watch as is:

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Just found it because I tried to ID my most recent purchase:

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Looks like it has the same case which is correctly marked 165 / 74, but comes with a different dial and the caliber 165 movement (factory M, SN# 1424080). The serial number of my watch case is 2170823, so I guess mine is a later variant after 1931...

BTW: any one have a spare style 74 crystal or has a suggestion for a replacement type from GS or others?