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Re: 'Cartouche' case with Cal. 849 [message #6302 is a reply to message #6299]

Thu, 26 November 2015 08:33

Barney Green
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Registered: February 2014
Location: Wolfsburg, Germany

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First of all: I love those watches! Congrats to the owners...

Putting together what I know about these, I would say it is possible to date them towards 1921/22. For what I know the Cartouches were introduced 1921, so this is the starting point. The Catalog formerly known as Master Book starts late 1922. Since these ARE Cartouches and they are NOT in the Catalog, they should have introduced before which leaves the time frame mentioned earlier.

Here is a 1921 ad showing the movement:

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And a 1922 ad showing the shape:

index.php?t=getfile&id=2602&private=0

Note that these watches were had engraved. I have different Cartouche ads from 1922 saying that they were available in 14k / 18k / white gold / green gold / plain / hand carved. Depending on the carver the patterns often were individual at that time. The dial from 1922 seems to be a 100% match...

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		Re: 'Cartouche' case with Cal. 849 By: Gary on Thu, 12 March 2015 19:42
		Re: 'Cartouche' case with Cal. 849 By: timeliz on Thu, 12 March 2015 19:55
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		Re: 'Cartouche' case with Cal. 849 By: MikeTheWatchGuy on Mon, 16 March 2015 02:37
		Re: 'Cartouche' case with Cal. 849 By: Thojil on Mon, 16 March 2015 09:56
		Re: 'Cartouche' case with Cal. 849 By: timeliz on Thu, 26 November 2015 01:46
		Re: 'Cartouche' case with Cal. 849 By: Gary on Thu, 26 November 2015 02:05
		Re: 'Cartouche' case with Cal. 849 By: Barney Green on Thu, 26 November 2015 08:33
		Re: 'Cartouche' case with Cal. 849 By: Thojil on Thu, 26 November 2015 12:57
		Re: 'Cartouche' case with Cal. 849 By: JackW on Thu, 26 November 2015 16:22

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