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Re: Caliber 861 [message #11815 is a reply to message #11804] Thu, 05 December 2019 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Thanks, Gary & Liz--I knew I'd seen this gorgeous watch earlier, but if I search any numbers on the forum it returns no results. Frustrating! Good to have confirmation it's Factory L. Then again... *sigh*

So my dates for mine were right, pre-1920.

I'd looked at the setting bits for both. Super close, but there seems to be a sight difference between 849 & mine/Liz's. Note the notch on the large piece: ours is more triangular vs. the 849. Note also the opposite end of that piece: there's a slight difference (849 not the same on top & bottom, different taper on the tip). I took that this was a 861, since both ends matched better. I could not find a pic of the actual movement, nor did I make out one below. Did I miss it?

Either way, these two must have been nigh identical: same size, almost same setting bits. Likely both from Factory L.


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