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Re: Caliber 650 (Guild) [message #12500 is a reply to message #12145] Tue, 02 June 2020 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Been busy, Barney, as of course you are correct and wanted to correct the OP.

I'd not been able to find a Record example to match--but since this post there've been a plethora on auction, both of the early and later variants I posted above. SN sequence is a match to Record's own (at least on this line), and the fonts/stamps all match with those on the Gruen 650.

Currently, item #s 232925633145 & 192886523378 are examples of the early version--note the matching text locations, fonts and SN sequence.

I cannot immediately locate an example of the later version (3 ADJ), but I have seen at least 1 exact match in the past few months.

Regarding the Record caliber #, I cannot confirm that it is the 51. The 51 shares parts, I understand, but it is specifically a 17.5L caliber with a different bridge design, while we know Record produced the exact size & layout as the 650. The 650 may be an exact match to a different Record caliber (perhaps 48, 49, or 50).


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