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Re: Caliber 849 [message #13016 is a reply to message #13015]

Sat, 01 August 2020 13:02

Barney Green
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OK, time to uncover Factory L.
To make a long story short: It is one of the suspects already named for this position, Landeron. To be precise, at this time the factory was still called Charles Hahn & Cie, based in the small village Landeron. Later, when the company was part of the ESA, it was simply called after the place, Landeron.

Here is why I am sure that "Landeron" is factory L.
The only known factory L marked movement is caliber 849, caliber 861 is very similar and will have the same source. Here comes the design protection for Charles Hahn in 1918, take a closer look at number 124:

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And we can see as #123 the form factor of this remarkable new rectangular version of the cal 849. This new movement is a mixture of 123 and 124...

Barney

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		Caliber 849 - 6.5L, 16J - Factory L By: Case on Thu, 05 December 2019 03:11
		Re: Caliber 861 By: Gary on Thu, 05 December 2019 03:36
		Re: Caliber 861 By: timeliz on Thu, 05 December 2019 03:37
		Re: Caliber 861 By: Case on Thu, 05 December 2019 20:56
		Re: Caliber 861 By: timeliz on Thu, 05 December 2019 21:32
		Re: Caliber 861 By: Case on Fri, 06 December 2019 03:31
		Re: Caliber 849 By: Case on Sat, 14 December 2019 19:11
		Re: Caliber 849 By: Case on Sat, 25 January 2020 02:38
		Re: Caliber 849 By: Case on Fri, 31 July 2020 19:06
		Re: Caliber 849 By: timeliz on Fri, 31 July 2020 19:42
		Re: Caliber 849 By: Gary on Fri, 31 July 2020 19:44
		Re: Caliber 849 By: timeliz on Fri, 31 July 2020 19:57
		Re: Caliber 849 By: Case on Sat, 01 August 2020 01:57
		Re: Caliber 849 By: Barney Green on Sat, 01 August 2020 13:02
		Re: Caliber 849 By: timeliz on Sat, 01 August 2020 16:13
		Re: Caliber 849 By: Case on Sat, 01 August 2020 19:33
		Re: Caliber 849 By: Jenneke on Sat, 01 August 2020 19:44
		Re: Caliber 849 By: Case on Mon, 08 February 2021 17:32
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