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Re: Early Wristlet [message #17972 is a reply to message #17971]

Mon, 02 January 2023 00:34

Ephemerald
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JackW wrote on Sun, 01 January 2023 17:13

Barney's images can also be used to suggest that the lugs were altered from a fixed hinged band to a hinged loop to accommodate a ribbon. Not saying that is the case, but another possibility for the life of the watch. More than enough examples of altered lug styles on watches completed in the period to back this up as a hypothesis.

Ok. Point taken. I agree that it seems it can be used to fit a narrative. I see that a lot.

My take is, not really, while Barney's ads do show the similarities..... the ads are not showing any images of my exact model but with different lugs on it.

There are multiple obvious differences between my model and the models in his examples, and in fact, in any known examples in any known Gruen ads.

So it is not quite as framed, "hey, there's the exact watch! but with different lugs...hmmm"

Theory does not add up, but totally my opinion, bc if the existence of altered lugs on watches puts every unknown model, with absolutely no signs of alteration whatsoever, into question...oh my.

It is a rare watch.
In a loupe it looks factory. As it does without one, actually Laughing

Clearly it matches.
Personally, other than gender, I think Paul nailed it and at least, accurately understood it was Gruen.

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I also think, it's possible an documentation pops up some day that confirms the gender, either way.

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		Re: Early Wristlet By: Ephemerald on Thu, 27 August 2020 21:48
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		Re: Early Wristlet By: afire on Sun, 30 August 2020 04:15
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		Re: Early Wristlet By: Ephemerald on Thu, 29 December 2022 05:06
		Re: Early Wristlet By: timeliz on Thu, 29 December 2022 05:34
		Re: Early Wristlet By: Ephemerald on Thu, 29 December 2022 05:58
		Re: Early Wristlet By: afire on Thu, 29 December 2022 15:26
		Re: Early Wristlet By: JackW on Fri, 30 December 2022 00:14
		Re: Early Wristlet By: Ephemerald on Fri, 30 December 2022 00:17
		Re: Early Wristlet By: Ephemerald on Fri, 30 December 2022 01:09
		Re: Early Wristlet By: Barney Green on Fri, 30 December 2022 21:13
		Re: Early Wristlet By: JackW on Fri, 30 December 2022 22:00
		Re: Early Wristlet By: Jenneke on Sat, 31 December 2022 21:19
		Re: Early Wristlet By: Ephemerald on Sat, 31 December 2022 21:38
		Re: Early Wristlet By: Barney Green on Sun, 01 January 2023 10:10
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		Re: Early Wristlet By: Barney Green on Sun, 01 January 2023 16:03
		Re: Early Wristlet By: Jenneke on Sun, 01 January 2023 16:37
		Re: Early Wristlet By: Ephemerald on Sun, 01 January 2023 23:24
		Re: Early Wristlet By: JackW on Mon, 02 January 2023 00:13
		Re: Early Wristlet By: Ephemerald on Mon, 02 January 2023 00:34
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