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Re: The caliber 411 [message #5665 is a reply to message #5663] Tue, 07 July 2015 14:30 Go to previous message
MikeTheWatchGuy
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Registered: May 2013
Location: North Carolina
Gruen Guildsman

I found an interesting "Glue-in" entry for the 410 that was glued into a copy of the 1939 catalog. It's the only movement information block in a Gruen catalog that has the 410 by itself. It shows that Gruen did mail out updates to the catalogs over time as there is no catalog that this 410 only block could have been cut from to glue into the 1939 catalog. Surprised we don't run into more of these updated catalogs. Perhaps you had to write to Gruen to get them rather than Gruen mailing them out automatically.

This is the glued in entry from the 1939 catalog

index.php?t=getfile&id=2358&private=0

All of the other catalogs show the 410 and 420 movements together. This one is from the 1945 catalog.

index.php?t=getfile&id=2357&private=0


As pointed out by Gary and Jack, they state here that the curved models have a different cannon pinion, center wheel and hour wheel than the flat version. I would like to measure the cannon pinion and hour wheel to see if they are taller as I suspect they would need to be. Gary's photos with dials on the movements demonstrates why they would need to be longer; there's a larger gap between the dial and movement on the curved model.
 
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