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Victoria Box [message #12234]

Tue, 03 March 2020 13:46

Barney Green
Messages: 1747
Registered: February 2014
Location: Wolfsburg, Germany

Gruen Authority

I was given not only this nice Victoria box but also little Vicky itself as a present by a very valued member of this forum. So a very big thank you to the generous guy who made me a big pleasure!!!

This box was used for the Victor and Victoria series which was introduced and heavily promoted in 1936 being the market opener for smaller watches after the baguette era for the ladies. The outside came in red and black velvet covering the wooden box. Just like the green box it has a polished metal rim at the opening. Gruen writing on the silk like inner cover comes in a modified font, also the crest has been modified over the slightly older green box. Not known if there were other watches of that time coming in the same box.

Period : 1936 - 1938
Watch type : Victor & Victoria with its variants
Size : L=7cm W=12.2cm Hfront=3.1cm Hback=5cm
Inventor : unknown
Patents : unknown

Box maker : unknown

Front view closed:
/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=6179&private=0

/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=6179&private=0

Front and side view closed:
/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=6180&private=0

Back side with hinge:
/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=6183&private=0

Inside frontal view:
/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=6181&private=0

Inside from an angle:
/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=6182&private=0

I can add a picture of the accompanying guarantee certificate and a promotional pamphlet of the series showing the box in a second post if there is a wish for it.

Barney

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Gruen, Gruen, Gruen ist alles was ich habe... Gruen, Gruen, Gruen is all I have...(German folklore song)

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Re: Victoria Box [message #12235 is a reply to message #12234]

Tue, 03 March 2020 16:39

afire
Messages: 1331
Registered: May 2013
Location: Wisconsin

Gruen Authority

Of course we'll welcome more pictures of ephemera. Also, just for the sake of completeness, can you show us what the Victor model is?

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Re: Victoria Box [message #12236 is a reply to message #12235]

Tue, 03 March 2020 18:15

Barney Green
Messages: 1747
Registered: February 2014
Location: Wolfsburg, Germany

Gruen Authority

OK, accompanying papers first, it is a single sheet of paper, printed double sided:

/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=6184&private=0

/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=6185&private=0

Here comes the folder showing the box. As you can see the inside looks a bit different in this preseries, I think that the introductory folder was made with prototypes of the boxes.

/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=6187&private=0

/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=6187&private=0

Last but not least a group picture of all 6 Victor / Victoria models:
/vgforum/index.php?t=getfile&id=6186&private=0

There is the slight possibility that the boxes were used for the succeeding Victor / Victoria couple of quite different looking watches with the same names which were introduced as successors in 1938.

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Gruen, Gruen, Gruen ist alles was ich habe... Gruen, Gruen, Gruen is all I have...(German folklore song)

[Updated on: Wed, 04 March 2020 06:37]

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Re: Victoria Box [message #12242 is a reply to message #12236]

Wed, 04 March 2020 05:18

afire
Messages: 1331
Registered: May 2013
Location: Wisconsin

Gruen Authority

That confirms one thing I've always kind of wondered about - whether these ostensibly ladies style boxes ever held men's watches. It makes sense that at least mens watches with metal bracelets would not have been packaged in the usual long flat boxes.

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