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Cartouche 367 Orne

Sun, 30 June 2024 20:40

Model name: car 367
Type: cartouche
Period/date:  1929
Gender: ladies

Case Maker: wadsworth
Case Material: 14k gold filled reinforced with extra gold. Black and green enamel.
Case Serial: 5355027
Case Style no: 63

Caliber: 153 (gruen guild 4 adj 15 jewels)
Movement Maker: m favre
Movement Serial: 1325346


1920's | 3 comments

Blue paper Watch glasses box

Fri, 22 March 2024 16:13

A dark blue paper box for Gruen double Lentile watch glasses. Assortment AL1 and AL2? Contained 2 times 1 gross (=12x12) glasses.

Period: 1916-1920?
Watch type: for Ladies’’ and Gentlemen’s Wrist Watches
Size: width 17cm, depth 7 cm and height 3cm
Patents: for the Double Lentille trademark 12th may 1916

Box maker: unknown
Crystal maker: unknown Swiss
Box seller: F.J. Boesse&Co, 68 Nassau street, New York


1910s and prior | 1 comment

Gruen Baron Pictures and Questions

New Member Gruen Baron; Thu, 18 January 2024 14:38


New member here.  I inherited my grandfather's Gruen, which I think is a Baron; don't know the year; any help with that would be appreciated.  My grandfather died in 1969, so the watch has been sitting in a drawer since then.  I would like to get it running with a new crystal and cleaned a little.  Is there a service that you folks recommend? I would appreciate any comments that you may have. Thanks, and I am looking forward to spending some time with the community.  


1940's | 4 comments

1941-45 Plaskon box in black and gold

Sat, 09 September 2023 15:52

Black and Gold presentation case for woman's watch.

Period: 1941-45 (-ish)
Watch type: Verithin
Size: women’s wristwatch
Inventor: ??
Patents: ??

Box maker: likely Rathbun

This thread started by Case, is the prime source of information for this one:

Black and Gold woman's presentation case from 1945, per the papers that came with it. The papers, shown here, are copyrighted 1941.


Of note, and I owe the credit to Cary for these observations: The cream and red are far more common. He suggested that the black boxes, which are not as commonly seen were for solid gold models.

Lastly... I don't collect boxes or generally go out of my way to pick them up. I specifically got this one for the papers.

1940s | 0 comments

Gruen world timer clock

Wed, 06 September 2023 17:51

Ok. Its a bit modern.

A quartz Japan movement. The seconds hand is a disc with a red airplane on it. Time can be set and also the world time hour (day/night) disc.
Wood, plastic, aluminium. Sturdy made.

Dating it around 1974-1976 by looking at the logo. The star within the U I have seen with the Teletime models which I think were advertised in 1974 by the Gruen watch export co SA from neuchatel Switzerland.



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Gruen Non Horological Related Products | 3 comments

Octagon pocket watch

Mon, 04 September 2023 20:02

Model name: Octagon verithin
Type: Pocket watch
Period/date: 1917/1918
Gender: male

Case Maker: Gruen?
Case Material: sterling 925/1000
Case Serial: 326686
Case Style no: none

Caliber: V5 - 15 jewels 5 positions temperatures adjusted
Movement Maker: gruen
Movement Serial: 478301

Other info: the movement has been modified by a watchmaker. A setting lever screw has been added by drilling a hole through the plate. Not sure what is going on.  :roll:


1910's and prior | 5 comments

Gruen Autowind Lexington

Mon, 14 August 2023 17:24

Model name: Lexington
Type: Autowind
Period/date: 1953
Gender: Gents

Case Maker: Star Watch Case Company
Case Material: 10GF Bezel, Guildite back
Case Serial: D642893
Case Style no: 769

Caliber: 480SS 17 Jewels
Movement Maker: Gruen
Movement Serial: Unknown, not visible on movement

Bracelet: Leather

Other info: This model is identified from Mike & Shari Barnett's "Gruen The 1950's" Page 164. The 480 caliber was the first Gruen Auto-Wind caliber with a 360º rotating rotator. There are 3 variants of the 480 and a rare 25 jewel version seldom found in the wild.




1950's and Up | 1 comment

Help identifying this watch can - 1949 Curvex Chandler

Wed, 02 August 2023 05:54

Can anyone please help me identify this watch?


1940's | 4 comments

14k White Gold Alpina-Gruen Techni-Quadron

Fri, 23 June 2023 16:29

Model name: Techni-Quadron
Type: Duo-Dial Wristwatch
Period/date: Circa 1930-1932
Gender: Men's

Case Maker: Weber & Cie
Case Material: 14k White Gold
Case Serial: 1788846
Case Style no: N/A

Caliber: 877
Movement Maker: Aegler, aka Gruen Guild Factory A
Movement Serial: 1734593

Bracelet: Leather Strap

I was excited to pick this one up to make a pair of solid gold Techni-Quadrons in both white and green gold.  Unlike my green gold example with lots of interesting markings, there's not a whole lot to explain with this one.  Condition is very nice.  Edges are sharp and engravings are crisp.  There is minimal service marking, so it appears to be a low mileage example.

As usual, it's a Weber case.  I'm starting to believe that Weber may have been the sole source of cases for Alpina-Gruen branded watches aside from the occasional gold filled case imported from the US.  And once again, the serial number on this one is odd.  Weber serial numbers have a very consistent format, six digits, X0XXXX, stamped on the inside of the case.  For Gruen watches, it seems to have been 10XXXX early on and then rolled over 20XXXX, possibly at the start of the 1930s.  For Alpina-Gruen watch, the first digit is usually (although not always) a 4, for a 40XXXX format.  My other one has a 5-digit serial number engraved on the outside of the case back, which I've never seen before.  The serial number on this one is stamped on the inside as usual, but is a seven-digit number that bears no resemblance to any other Weber serial number I've ever seen.  I have no idea what to make of these two outliers.  Anyway, it's a handsome watch.  

Watches from the Guild | 7 comments

Information about this timepiece - 1951 Curvex Portrait

Gruen curvex 10k gold filled precision watch Switzerland ; Mon, 19 June 2023 04:28

Any information is helpful. I believe it was made in Switzerland in the 1940's. States that it's 10k goldfield, very nice timepiece. I've personally never seen such a beautiful timepiece.. I do not believe the dark blue band on it is original and also the band is not in the best of shape. However I could be wrong as I am not an expert. I have no clue as to the value of this timepiece and really don't know much about Gruen Curvex 🤷‍♀️

If anyone has any helpful information, I would greatly appreciate it.


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1950's and Up | 5 comments

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