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Men's wristwatch 707 no style number

Military type; Sun, 10 January 2021 22:56

Model name : unknown
Type : wristwatch
Period/date : before 1925 (by introduction, but this one was probably sold in 1925)
Gender : men's

Case Maker : Wadsworth
Case Material : 14k Gold Filled Ultra Quality
Case Serial : 5213648
Case Style no : none

Caliber : 707
Movement Maker : Gruen Guild
Movement Serial: 89774

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Just for kicks, I thought I would put this one up too. Despite not having a style number, it's roughly contemporary to 707/1.

I like this one even better than the other one. That military dial really looks sharp!

Model Identification and discussion | 1 comment

Strap 62

Style number 1; Sun, 10 January 2021 22:43

Model name : unknown
Type : wristwatch
Period/date : c. 1925
Gender : men's

Case Maker : Wadsworth
Case Material : 14k Gold Filled
Case Serial : 5189575
Case Style no : 1

Caliber : 707
Movement Maker : Gruen Guild
Movement Serial: 103306

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I wonder who L. Gant was.

The only thing in common between this 707/1 and the women's 179/1 (besides the case maker) is that they're both Paris Squares. This one runs, and I like the hands a lot.

1920's | 22 comments

The Caliber 833

6''' oval women's movement; Sun, 10 January 2021 22:31

Maker: Gruen Guild
Size: 5 ligne
Jewel Markings: 15 Jewels
Adj Markings: 4 Adj
Config: Hunter
Dial feet: 12 & 5.25 positions
Dial release mech: side screws
Example date: unknown

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The caliber database | 1 comment

Mens wristwatch 705/2 in nickel, Strap 150

Style number 2 (men's version); Sun, 10 January 2021 17:50

Model name : Strap 150
Type : wristwatch
Period/date : c. 1930-31
Gender : men's

Case Maker : Wadsworth
Case Material : Nickel
Case Serial : 8512576
Case Style no : 2

Caliber : 705
Movement Maker : Gruen Guild
Movement Serial: 1924

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Here is the men's version of style number 2. This one is the '20s version of the el cheapo: nickel case, but still 15 jewels. I react badly to nickel. It seems that whoever bought this watch did, too. Also, note to self: never engrave a nickel watch! You'd think they'd have known that in the '20s too...

It runs for a short while.

It has such an elegance to it: if only it were in gold...

1930's | 3 comments

Women's wristlet 179/1 - WR83 Paris Square

Style number 1 (women's version); Sun, 10 January 2021 17:37

Model name : WR83 Paris Square
Type : wristwatch
Period/date : c. 1925
Gender : women's

Case Maker : Wadsworth
Case Material : 14k Gold reinforced with metal
Case Serial : 1010445
Case Style no : 1

Caliber : 179
Movement Maker : Gruen Guild
Movement Serial: 118596

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A fine style! This one has a broken mainspring. I also have the men's version of style number 1 (705/1), which doesn't resemble this watch at all.

Were these getting names in 1925?

1920's | 5 comments

Caliber 505 very late pocket watch

Sun, 10 January 2021 05:13

Model name : unknown
Type : pocket watch
Period/date : later than 1968
Gender : mens

Case Maker : Gruen
Case Material : Base metal
Case Serial : none
Case Style no : 5013

Caliber : 505-6 (apparently)
Movement Maker : not Gruen
Movement Serial: none

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Notes on disassembly:
The only way to remove the movement is by prying gently up on the dial at 6 o'clock. The movement pivots up. Note that the balance is also at 6 o'clock - while greater leverage can be gained by sticking something further under the dial, this may prove detrimental.
It would seem like the thing to do would be to pry equally along all edges to lift the movement straight up. This will not work. The crown must exit the case straight down as the movement/dial tilts up. It will not exit any other way. You were warned.

Given the stress on the dial feet during disassembly, I don't think this style of case is very well thought-out from a longevity perspective. But it seems quite effective at keeping out dirt.

Model Identification and discussion | 3 comments

The Caliber ... [I guess I get to name it, but I'm just speechless right now]

17''' experimental PW caliber; Sun, 10 January 2021 04:51

The title says it all.

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I checked the plates and the numbers match. This is a factory original.

Characteristic of V2:
- Marked Precision in diamond (!!!)
- Adjusted to "All Positions", marked on balance cock
- Moustache pallet fork
- Does not use banking pins
- Uses the V2 click and associated bridges

Characteristic of V3.5:
- Standard balance, not chronometer
- Serial number (!!!)

Characteristic of both:
- Can be Swiss stem set
- 19 jewels
- Can be marked Suisse
- Jewels in gold chaton settings

Characteristic of neither:
- Simple regulator (V3.5 would have a swan regulator and V2 would have a reverse swan regulator)
- Plate/balance jewel setting cut out exposes the banking plates & pallet fork (the edges are nickel plated, so it was done during the manufacturing process)

Anyone care to suggest a name?

The caliber database | 9 comments

ID'ing an unusual, very wide oval ladies wrist watch

Gruen watch ID'ing help needed; Sat, 09 January 2021 18:37

Model name : ?
Type : ?
Period/date : Guessing 40s or more likely the 50s
Gender : Ladies

Case Maker : Gruen
Case Material : SS? Base metal bezel
Case Serial : ?
Case Style no : ?

Caliber : ?
Movement Maker : Gruen
Movement Serial: Swiss XTh (only info on the movement, other than 17 Jewel, Gruen Watch Company unadjusted.

Bracelet : Appears to be SS, curved metal

Other info : I can't find any pictures anywhere of this particular watch on the web. The case doesn't have any of the "normal" serial or style numbers. On the bezel, in very small letters it says Swiss, and inside the case it has Gruen Watch Company, Germany. It seems to run well. Sorry for the poor quality of some of the pictures. It's hard to take closeup photos with a phone

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Model Identification and discussion | 11 comments

Women's 826ss

Doctor/Nurse model, radium; Thu, 07 January 2021 04:14

Model name : unknown
Type : wristlet
Period/date : 1920s
Gender : womens

Case Maker : Wadsworth
Case Material : 14k GF reinforced with metal
Case Serial : 974618
Case Style no : none

Caliber : 826 SS
Movement Maker : Gruen Guild
Movement Serial: 1366560

This fine watch was purchased "non-running" as a parts donor for a different watch. Turns out it runs fine. I couldn't bring myself to steal parts either.

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It has a cracked crystal and some rust on the case screws. As usual, the case is marked for an 827. The 826 is over-struck on the movement, making it a bit harder to read. Also has a fun issue where it runs for either a day or 5 minutes - take your pick. I suspect the sweep seconds mechanism. But hey, the hand goes smoothly around the dial when it's running!

Model Identification and discussion | 0 comments

Cartouche 212 variant.

Wed, 06 January 2021 22:37

Model name : Cartouche 212 variation
Type : Cartouche
Period/date :1929-30
Gender :

Case Maker :Wads
Case Material : White gold filled
Case Serial :52885917
Case Style no :72

Caliber :835
Movement Maker :Aegler
Movement Serial:15003001

Bracelet :Of period. Likely original. 4 adj.


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1920's | 0 comments

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