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a Quadron Siegerin

Sun, 06 March 2016 21:29

This went through the European swamp...262314638252

cal 157 in a sold gold case. I went after it but it sold for what I thought it'd go for. I spent my shekels last week on two watches and a book and just couldn't run it up that high. dang.

Anyone here by chance grab this one?

Siegerin if you've not seen the other post was the branch of Alpina being sold in Germany from about 1930 through 1940. The Alpina halmark is on the case with the mark for the gold content. Other Gruen shared movements have been under the Siegerin label but this is the first time I've seen a cal 157.

Look at the hairspring however... it is flat rather than an overcoil. Interesting.

Watches from the Guild | 11 comments

Gruen Verithin Madretsch V2

Pocket Watch; Mon, 22 February 2016 22:33

Model name :Madretsch
Type :Verithin
Period/date :1910
Gender :Gents

Case Maker :
Case Material :
Case Serial :
Case Style no :

Caliber :V2
Movement Maker :
Movement Serial:

Bracelet :

sorry if my Q is stupid, but I just don't know. I purchased the movement (working) and want to put it in a nice case. The first 38mm case (verithin) was No good as the stem did not fit.

Do I have to purchase a particular style of case OF stem set etc.

By What name is the movement known? Is thee a Cal number?

Please help.



The caliber database | 5 comments

Strap 98

Tue, 02 February 2016 03:46

Model name : Strap 98
Type : Strap Watch
Period/date : Late 1920s
Gender : Men's

Case Maker : Wadsworth
Case Material : 14k White Gold Filled
Case Serial : 5334212
Case Style no : Art Deco

Caliber : 179
Movement Maker : Marc Favre
Movement Serial: 1201235 (Best Guess)

Bracelet : Hadley Hadleyite (Base Metal or Chrome, but not WGF)
Other info : Sold on eBay December 14, 2015, for $310. The bracelet doesn't seem like the best match to me, but all things considered, I'm willing to believe it's original. In any event, it's hard to imagine a better example of what this model must have looked like when brand new.

Pictures posted with seller's permission.

1920's | 3 comments

Strap 843

Curvex; Thu, 14 January 2016 00:27

Model name :Strap 843
Type :Curvex
Period/date :1954
Gender :Gents

Case Maker :Jonell
Case Material :14K SG
Case Serial :M68128
Case Style no :760

Caliber :370
Movement Maker :Gruen
Movement Serial:

Bracelet :

index.php?t=getfile&id=2667&private=0index.php?t=getfile&id=2666&private=0index.php?t=getfile&id=2665&private=0Any help would be greatly appreciated. Picked up this 14k Curvex with original box and papers. Never seen one like it and haven't been able to find any information on it. Thanks in advance.

1950's and Up | 8 comments


Autowind; Sun, 03 January 2016 15:58

Model name :Carlo
Type :Autowind
Period/date :1970's
Gender :Gents

Case Maker :
Case Material :
Case Serial :
Case Style no :

Caliber :780CD
Movement Maker :
Movement Serial:

Bracelet :

I've recently been asked to help identify my late father's Gruen. I remember him wearing this piece in the '70s, but I don't know anything about the watch. Naturally, he didn't retain the original box or papers and the factory strap/bracelet is long gone. I received the two attached photos from my mother (forgive the blurriness) and would greatly appreciate any info that might point me in the right direction. Model name/number, movement details, approximate year of manufacture, etc.

Thanks for all!




1950's and Up | 4 comments

Gruen Airflight II

Mon, 28 December 2015 04:32

Model name :Airflight II
Type :Precision
Period/date :Late 1960
Gender :Gents

Case Maker :
Case Material :
Case Serial :
Case Style no :

Caliber :
Movement Maker :
Movement Serial:

Bracelet :

This Christmas I was up with my great-uncle and we were organizing some of his closets. We came across this watch and he can't even remember when/where he got it. It's still in the original case and looks like it has never been used. No wear or scratches at all and probably is the original band. Winds and runs just fine including the switching between 1-12 to 13-24. I've wound it and let it run the past couple days and it is keeping perfect time. I'm just looking for more info. I think I have IDed it as a Gruen Airflight but it seems like there are a bunch of varieties of those out there and besides the ad below, I haven't seen one identical to this watch. Any info is appreciated (including value estimates). Thanks!

Model name : Airlfight Jump Hour, Maybe Airflight II?
Type : Gold Wristwatch
Period/date : ?
Gender : Male


Watch in Case



Back. It has a little white sticker, not sure if I should peel it off to see if there's a serial number or something else engraved underneath?

Ad I found online, it looks just like this one which makes me think it's an Airflight II but I can't find any info on how that's different than a basic Airlfight

1950's and Up | 4 comments

Cartouche 107

Sister post to the Help Identifying Cartouche 163; Tue, 22 December 2015 04:04

This is the 2nd of two cartouche style Gruens I recently acquired. Looking for any history, year of manufacture, other information on this model.
Thanks in advance.

Inside case:
14 K. GOLD

Outside case back:

153 (under balance cock... could be 155)
134178 (or it could be 134/78)

GRUEN (under 12:00)


1920's | 3 comments

Gruen Semithin Pocket Watch 756

Extra Thin as described; Mon, 14 December 2015 20:14

Model name :Semithin
Type : Pocket Watch
Period/date :1920's
Gender :Male

Case Maker :Wadsworth
Case Material :Gold Fill
Case Serial :676279
Case Style no :Open Face

Caliber :756
Movement Maker :Gruen Guild
Movement Serial:None found

Bracelet :N/A

Other info :This one interesting since it has "Extra Thin" stamped on the back. The 1926 Standardized Part List has it listed as a Semithin. This watch has the look of green gold. The bow and crown were replaced with yellow gold so I might be looking for suitable replacements. I love the patina of the dial! This is my first Gruen pocket watch. The local vendor gave a deal I couldn't refuse.

How many thins can you have? ;-)


1920's | 7 comments

Geo H Newstedt Pocket Watch

Gruen Veri-Thin; Sat, 12 December 2015 22:47

Model name : Pocket Watch
Type : Veri-Thin
Period/date :1916-1918
Gender :Male

Case Maker :Wadsworth
Case Material :Gold Fill
Case Serial : 318260
Case Style no :Open

Caliber :V5
Movement Maker :Gruen Precision 15 jewels
Movement Serial: 461283

Bracelet :N/A

Other info : I need to get better pictures, I suck at taking pictures on the go. This watch is for sale at the local antique shop. Geo Newstedt had a local jewelry store in Cincinnati. So Gruen made local jewelers brand watches with their logo?


1910's and prior | 7 comments

Veri-Thin Airway?

Sat, 12 December 2015 17:42

Model name :Airway?
Type :Veri-Thin
Period/date :Early 1940's
Gender :Male

Case Maker :Katz & Ogush
Case Material :14K Gold filled?
Case Serial :234873
Case Style no :Unknown

Caliber :405
Movement Maker :Gruen Precision
Movement Serial:941878

Bracelet :Leather

Other info :Interesting to find the solid gold K&0 marks on the case when you see "base metal" on the case back. So you can call this 14K gold filled over base metal?

Per Jack's Gruen case document the K&0 case period was 1921-1937. Ben Katz left and went to Gruen in 1935 but cases with the K&0 were at least marked up until 1940. Hence how I guessed the year, could be late 30's.


1940's | 4 comments

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