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The Quadron 3

A Quadron with a special movement; Mon, 22 July 2013 20:54

Model name : Quadron 3
Type : Quadron
Period/date : approx. 1930
Gender : Male

Case Maker : Gruen
Case Material : 14k yellow gold
Case Serial : 1136582
Case Style no : 117/67

Caliber : 119
Movement Maker : Gruen
Movement Serial: 657748

Bracelet : Leather

Other info : This example has the beautifully engraved gilded "Precision EXTRA" version of Cal. 119. Although in execution the movement resembles the famous 50th Anniversary VeriThin pocket watch caliber there is no evidence that these engraved Quadrons were also produced to celebrate that occasion.
Case and dial equal the Quadron 3 & 4 however these are respectively Green and White Gold. One possibility is that it is actually the Quadron 5. Quadron 5 is missing from the Quadron listing in Shawkey's "A Collector's Guide", but could be the Yellow Gold version.

Another interesting detail on the movement is that the caliber number is milled out where you normally find it on the pillar plate (between barrel bridge and center bridge). Could this mean a Cal.117 or 123 was used as a base to create this special 119?

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Edited the title and info as I positively ID'ed as a Quadron 3 and not 18.

1930's | 8 comments

The caliber 98

Thu, 18 July 2013 21:37

The caliber 98 is a 15 or 17-jewel movement and is 9-3/4 ligne or 21.99mm in diameter (1926 Standardized Parts, page 22). According to the later Material Catalog 539 two other variants exist, caliber 99 with 15-jewels but different setting gear and caliber 997 a 17-jewel variant of this movement. This later information shows caliber 98 only as a 15-jewel implying the 17-jewel variant changed to caliber 997 at some point. Production start was about 1915.

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The caliber database | 17 comments

Quadron 21

rectangle with tonneau cutout bezel; Tue, 16 July 2013 22:46

Another one recently dug out of the "to-do" pile. This one is going in my collection, not for sale, at least not at this time! This is one of the "Deco-ey" styled Quadrons versus the later streamlined ones. Love the tonneau cutout in the bezel.

Model name : Quadron 21
Type : Quadron
Period/date : 1920s
Gender : Men

Case Maker : Wadsworth
Case Material : gold filled reinforced with extra gold
Case Serial : 5307175
Case Style no : 117/70

Caliber : 117
Movement Maker : Alpina
Movement Serial: 577241

Bracelet : Leather band (aftermarket)

Other info : back engraved: A Gilbert MacIvor; ad is from the 1929 Guild book, page 79

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1920's | 3 comments

18 Karat Quadron Weber Case

Jusr Arrived; Wed, 10 July 2013 13:41

Model name : Gruen
Type : Quadron Collection
Period/date : Unknown
Gender : Mens

Case Maker : Weber
Case Material :18 karat Yellow / White / Rose
Case Serial :201384
Case Style no : Tri-Color Tank

Caliber : 123 Engraved
Movement Maker : Gruen
Movement Serial: 700815

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and of the inside case back

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The engraving on the watch dates the watch to 1935

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The bezel is Rose Gold

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The inside bezel of the case back is yellow gold

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I will be sending the dial to have a salmon colored dial completed.


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I am trying to source some period correct hands and period correct crown. The person whom I acquired the watch from explained to me that his grandfather lived down the street from "Time Hill" as a young boy and use to go out at night and play on the grounds. They would occasionally find Watch Boxes sprinkled throughout the complex. They use to take them and play games with the. He sent me one of those boxes.

I would appreciate any help you could give me in sourcing hands and a crown. As usual I appreciate ALL your help in the past, present and of course in the future. It is a little corner of the world that people really enjoy helping people with no strings attached.

1930's | 0 comments

Baguette Unknown

Mon, 01 July 2013 21:52

Model named: To be identified
Type: Baguette
Period/date: ca 1929 -1931
Gender: Female

Case Maker: Gruen
Case Material: 14k gold filled
Case Serial: 2167385
Case Style no: 111

Caliber: 879 (seventeen jewels)
Movement Maker: Aegler S.A. (Factory A)
Movement Serial: 1939757

Bracelet:

Other info: Case with 14 single cut diamonds. Watch has a personal inscription "Agnes Barry milwaukee Wisc". Caliber 879 is the same as Rolex 170.

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1920's | 6 comments

Baguette 505 Bridesmaid

Mon, 01 July 2013 21:34

Model named: Baguette 505
Type: Baguette
Period/date: 1932 - 1935
Gender: Female

Case Maker: Gruen Guild
Case Material: Gruen Quality (gold filled)
Case Serial 2205666
Case Style no: 135

Caliber: 183 (7 jewels)
Movement Maker: ?
Movement Serial: none

Bracelet: Leather cordette (new)

Other info: Case with 2 single cut diamonds. Format case: 33.1 x 12.6 mm

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1930's | 5 comments

Cartouche Wellesley 388 and 402

Mon, 01 July 2013 21:03

Model name : Car 388 or Wellesley
Type : Cartouche
Period/date : 1924 - 1935
Gender : Female

Case Maker : Gruen (cincinnati)
Case Material : reinforced with extra gold - 14k gold filled
Case Serial : 2092760
Case Style no : 835 / 82

Caliber : 165
Movement Maker : Marc Favre & Co (factory M)
Movement Serial: 1446205

Bracelet : after market, stainless

Other info : probably replacement movement, expected 835

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1920's | 2 comments

Curvex Trooper

Mon, 01 July 2013 19:49

Model name: Curvex Trooper
Period/date: 1940 to 1947
Gender: Men's
Case Maker: Wadsworth
Case Material: 14 Karat Gold (also available in 10 Karat Gold Filled)
Case Style no: 440 450
Caliber: 440
Movement Maker: Gruen
Bracelet: 14mm Strap

Other info: Also known as Curvex Colonel and perhaps others. Another of the iconic 440 Curvex designs. Offered in pink gold as well, and with multiple dials.

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1940's | 9 comments

Curvex Companion

Mon, 01 July 2013 19:44

Model name: Curvex Companion
Period/date: 1940? to 1946
Gender: Men's
Case Maker: Wadsworth
Case Material: 14 Karat Gold
Case Style no: 440 498
Caliber: 440
Movement Maker: Gruen
Movement Serial:
Bracelet: 16mm Strap

My first Curvex (not this example, but another that I still have), also available in pink gold.

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1940's | 1 comment

Gruen Annapolis (123)

Mon, 01 July 2013 04:08

Model name: Quadron Annapolis
Period/date: 1930
Gender: Men's
Case Maker: Wadsworth
Case Material: 14 karat gold-filled "reinforced with extra gold"
Case Serial:
Case Style no: 123 108
Caliber: 123
Bracelet: Original matching gold-filled bracelet
Other info: Pictured in the 1929 Guild Book. This example is fitted with the "two-tone" (gilt bridges on rhodium plated pillar plate), showing milled spaces on the barrel bridge where the adjustment data had been. This indicates post-1930 production, as the US tariff was raised to $1.00 per adjustment in that year.

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1930's | 3 comments

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