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Gilde in stainless with cal 485 [message #8940] Thu, 26 April 2018 18:24 Go to next message
JackW is currently offline  JackW
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Another sub-brand of Alpina was apparently 'Gilde'. Like Siegerin, the brand was marketed in Germany but I see far fewer of the Gilde marked watches than the Siegerin marked ones on eBay. Speculation might suggest that the name was not used as long or was replaced by the Siegerin name. These styles are very similar.

Model name : Unknown
Type : Unknown
Period/date : circa 1935
Gender : mens

Case Maker : Krupp (of Germany)
Case Material : Stainless Steel (marked edelstahl)
Case Serial :15456
Case Style no : marked GL 117 on the inside (assuming this is a style number)

Caliber : 485 - 15 jewels movement
Movement Maker : Gruen/Alpina (Straub)
Movement Serial: na

Bracelet : modern leather strap; original unknown

Other info : Dust proof crown design is [url=http://vintagegruen.org/vgforum/index.php?t=msg&th= 377&goto=1681&#msg_1681]patented by Gruen[/url]. Marked 'Krupp' on the case back.

Here is the watch as it was received. Bought off of German eBay.

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edit to correct the spelling of 'straub'
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Re: Gilde in stainless with cal 485 [message #8941 is a reply to message #8940] Thu, 26 April 2018 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
trim is currently offline  trim
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lovely condition!
Re: Gilde in stainless with cal 485 [message #8942 is a reply to message #8941] Thu, 26 April 2018 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cool! I let this one go as I bought a golden one in December. Mine is a GL137, serial 52841. The only caliber 485 watch I own...
If you are interested I can also show it here.


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Re: Gilde in stainless with cal 485 [message #8943 is a reply to message #8942] Thu, 26 April 2018 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Barney Green wrote on Thu, 26 April 2018 19:17
Cool! I let this one go as I bought a golden one in December. Mine is a GL137, serial 52841. The only caliber 485 watch I own...
If you are interested I can also show it here.
Cool! ...and please add yours, unless you'd like to feature it in its own thread.


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Re: Gilde in stainless with cal 485 [message #8953 is a reply to message #8943] Fri, 27 April 2018 01:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice looking watch, Jack!

Are 485 parts difficult to find?


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Re: Gilde in stainless with cal 485 [message #8954 is a reply to message #8953] Fri, 27 April 2018 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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timeliz wrote on Fri, 27 April 2018 01:58
Are 485 parts difficult to find?
Not that bad. I've a spare movement. Also a stem and staff too.


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Re: Gilde in stainless with cal 485 [message #8955 is a reply to message #8954] Fri, 27 April 2018 04:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good to know. I've had my 485 movement for about 4 yrs now. Balance looks good. It has a stem & crown.
It came out of a model 148 "Major" , as that's the dial that came came with it.
I've been hunting for a case all this time with no success.


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Re: Gilde in stainless with cal 485 [message #8975 is a reply to message #8955] Thu, 03 May 2018 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great score. What a cool watch.
Re: Gilde in stainless with cal 485 [message #17251 is a reply to message #8975] Tue, 06 September 2022 03:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To save the next guy from combing through cast iron cookware search results, 'Staub' = Straub & Co. SA / J. Straub / Montres Alpina
Re: Gilde in stainless with cal 485 [message #17311 is a reply to message #17251] Sun, 18 September 2022 00:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sleepyastronaut wrote on Mon, 05 September 2022 21:29
To save the next guy from combing through cast iron cookware search results, 'Staub' = Straub & Co. SA / J. Straub / Montres Alpina
Nice to know that someone reads my posts. Thank you for catching the typo.
And for additional clarity: https://watch-wiki.org/index.php?title=J._Straub_%26_Co./de


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Re: Gilde in stainless with cal 485 [message #17312 is a reply to message #17311] Sun, 18 September 2022 05:38 Go to previous message
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Beautiful watch, Jack

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