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Veri-Thin Realm (Import 257, caliber 410 variant) [message #12944] Mon, 27 July 2020 01:24 Go to next message
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Here’s one that was out of my usual “realm” Laughing I previously owned it, now with another collector. It was almost impossible to really capture the pink gold luster—had the best luck in open afternoon sunlight.

Model name : Veri-Thin Realm (Import 257, 410 variant)
Type : Import
Period/date : ca1944-45 (?)
Gender : Men’s

Case Maker : Gabus Frères / Oracier SA, Le Locle, Switzerland (“141”)
Case Material : 14k Pink Gold
Case Serial : 110242
Case Style no : none stamped

Caliber : 410
Movement Maker : Gruen
Movement Serial: 914867

Bracelet : leather strap

Other info : Also available in caliber 420. Full numeral dial on this one (not shown in Master Book). Gold hallmark near crown.

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Re: Veri-Thin Realm (Import 257, caliber 410 variant) [message #12948 is a reply to message #12944] Mon, 27 July 2020 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice watch, beautiful condition.
Re: Veri-Thin Realm (Import 257, caliber 410 variant) [message #17899 is a reply to message #12948] Tue, 20 December 2022 16:42 Go to previous message
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I have been upstaged--if not in condition, at least in provenance. Here's another Realm (or something like it), purchased by Frank Sinatra for himself after he "made it big," then gifted & engraved in 1945 by him to Al Silvani. Sinatra had hired him by Jan 1945 to be his personal boxing trainer in his spare time.

Details: https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/lot-215-254
See also: https://blog.crownandcaliber.com/frank-sinatras-watches/

Neither mine or Frankie's have a dial exactly like Import 257, but his is closest (difference: Roman numeral at 12). The case number orientation on the back has changed. Good benchmark, though.

His: import case 111126, movement 915466
Mine: import case 110242, movement 914867

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