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Gruen Dive Watch [message #17291] Thu, 15 September 2022 18:28 Go to next message
wtsnt is currently offline  wtsnt
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Registered: September 2022
Gruen Apprentice
I am trying to identify the model of this Gruen "Dive" watch.

It is marked on the face:
Gruen
Geneve
25
Precision
Power-Date

The rear outer case is marked:
All Stainless Steel
Antimagnetic
Swiss Made
Waterproof20 ATM
Incabloc
Automatic

The inner rear case is unmarked.

It has a Gruen Caliber AS 1700 movement. I do not have the movement serial number.

The reason I am looking to precisely identify this watch model is that I have lost the watch bezel as you can see in the second picture. I think knowing the exact model may help in finding a replacement bezel

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

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Re: Gruen Dive Watch [message #17293 is a reply to message #17291] Thu, 15 September 2022 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Benjamin_Rush is currently offline  Benjamin_Rush
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Registered: June 2022
Location: USA
Gruen Apprentice
Hello, and welcome to the forum!

Where did you get this watch? Is it a family heirloom? You might consider posting an introductory thread in the New Member Introductions area, https://vintagegruen.org/vgforum/index.php?t=thread&frm_ id=2&

The VG forum is focused on Gruen from the time in which it was owned by the Gruen family, through 1959. Earlier Gruen watches are often marked Switzerland; after the sale, the new owners started to mark Gruen with the word 'Swiss.' Your watch looks to be from the 1960's, and it's possible you'll find little expertise here on watches from this era.

Best wishes!

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Re: Gruen Dive Watch [message #17297 is a reply to message #17293] Fri, 16 September 2022 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thesnark17 is currently offline  thesnark17
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Gruen Master
We have some expertise in later Gruens; it truly drops off at the beginning of the 1980s. Nevertheless, I personally cannot help you with the later watches, as I focus on the pocket watches.

I hope we can find you some information!
Re: Gruen Dive Watch [message #17299 is a reply to message #17297] Fri, 16 September 2022 04:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Case is currently offline  Case
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Location: Cincinnati
Gruen Authority
Hello & welcome! I too am not familiar with later Gruens, but I suspect yours is from early 1970s. Power date seems to come into play after 1971. Here is one from 1973. I suspect the bezels are interchangeable.

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Re: Gruen Dive Watch [message #17305 is a reply to message #17291] Fri, 16 September 2022 21:13 Go to previous message
Ephemerald
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Registered: October 2018
Location: City of Lake Salt
Gruen Master
Hello wtsnt, welcome.
Please let me be so kind as to actually explain to you this gap in knowledge.
I do not know where you are based but as you likely know, Gruen was an American based watch company, therefore it's safe to say most (but not all!) of the Gruen collectors are US based.
But this comes into play with Gruen Genève. Gruen Genéve brand was owned by the Gruen Watch Export Co, the sales arm based in Geneva which was wholly Swiss owned by Gruen S.A.
The majority of Gruen Genève were not originally meant for the US market at all. Only a very small percentage were sold in the US. They were meant for markets like South America, Australia, Europe, etc...but in fact were sold in 40 countries worldwide!
So long story to say we largely lack access in the USA to the data & the ads featuring Gruen Genève watches. It IS a real blank spot.
But the interest is there! Gosh, I sure wish we had more members from the Southern Hemisphere to help us out but...we do what we can. The ads are simply really hard to get at.
Now, that said there is a growing knowledge base of Gruen Genève. The watches used to be passed up by collectors, not the dive watches, but the Genève branded watches. Well not anymore. Highly sought after bc they've always been high quality. So good luck on the bezel! It may be pricey...
Now...the majority of Genève watches date to about 1954 to 1972, but it's true the brand was around in some form even after that to the end. I can tell you though that without a doubt this place has a lot of knowledge on 60's, 70's Gruens, more than any other place I know of online anyways.


Matthias
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